Bullish DD on Nokia's Pivot to AI-RAN and Defense

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Why Nokia

Nokia has made a shift from a legacy hardware manufacturer to an AI and Defence player. The stock price has began correcting, but still lags behind.

PE Valuation

Nokias current PE is sitting at 26 with the price of $13.4. It has taken a move away from its previous telecom equipment valuation, which had comparables such as Ericsson sitting at 17. It's currently shifting towards an optical infrastructure valuation, which leaves comparables such as ciena (216 PE) and Arista networks (54 PE). Right now Nokia is sitting in the transition phase, where we are left waiting to see where its valuation lands.

If we see the rewrite landing us on the low side of 54, that brings us to the potential price of ~$26.8, as long as development continues and Nokia is taken seriously as an AI infrastructure player. As of now, most people still struggle to see it as more than just a telecoms company, or an old phone company. If it does break away from its previous identity, I do see the rewrite of its AI valuation playing out.

The Defence sector.

Nokia has made a large shift towards the Defence sector, currently using 5G and AI, and will continue to develop themselves in this space Via 6G and AI-RAN.

They have a dedicated branch (Nokia Federal Solution) that is dedicated to serving the US government.

Their current defence partnerships are the US government, Lockheed Martin, NVDA, and Motorola (UK defence development)

What comes next

As for what comes after, I don't think it's really possible to put a price target on AI-RAN yet. If it is successful at what it aims to do, they will not only operate as an AI foundation, but also as an AI supplier via the 6G network centres if they achieve their goal. We will see a brand new revenue stream similar to cloud monetization. It's impossible to put a price target on it, because we have no comparable, and it will be the first of its kind.

If everything goes to plan, we could potentially see the $26.8 rewrite in the somewhat near future, with the potential of going much higher depending on how AI-RAN and partnerships play out.

Positions

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35,403 shares

288x $10JAN28

123x $15JAN28

I will also be adding more throughout the revaluation.

NFA.

Godspeed.

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Post Analysis Summary

The poster presents a bullish re-rating story around NOK: Nokia should no longer be valued by the market as a traditional telecom equipment vendor or an “old phone company,” but should instead be re-understood as an AI infrastructure, 6G/AI-RAN, and defense communications infrastructure company. The core valuation logic is that, at a share price of about $13.4, the poster believes NOK currently trades at a P/E of about 26x, below optical networking/AI infrastructure comparables such as Ciena and Arista. Therefore, if the market assigns it a P/E near Arista’s low-end level of about 54x, the share price could potentially be “rewritten” to about $26.8. The poster also believes that, if AI-RAN succeeds, it could create a new revenue stream similar to cloud services monetization, which is currently difficult to value and offers greater potential upside. The evidence chain mainly includes: Nokia’s Q1 2026 disclosure that AI & Cloud customer orders reached EUR 1 billion, optical networking growth, and an upward revision to Network Infrastructure guidance; NVIDIA’s October 2025 announcement of a $1 billion investment in Nokia and collaboration on AI-RAN/6G; Nokia Federal Solutions as its business arm serving the U.S. government, along with cooperation with Lockheed Martin and others on military 5G/open-architecture communications solutions. The image shows that the poster has a very large position: 35,403 NOK shares, with a market value of about $467,298 and an unrealized gain of about $125,921; 123 NOK $15 Calls, with a market value of about $51,660 and an unrealized gain of about $6,937; and 288 NOK $10 Calls, with a market value of about $169,200 and an unrealized gain of about $142,986. Total exposure exceeds $680,000, and the text describes the options as Jan 2028 LEAPS. The biggest weakness of the post is the large valuation leap: the poster directly maps the narrative shift from a traditional telecom equipment vendor to AI optical networking/AI-RAN onto high-multiple companies, but does not break down the profit contribution of Nokia’s various businesses, the incremental impact of Infinera/optical networking versus the drag from the mobile networks business, nor prove that a 54x P/E is applicable to Nokia as a whole. At the same time, the stated “current P/E of 26” likely mixes forward P/E or different data sources, while multiple users in the comments point out that trailing P/E is closer to 80x. AI-RAN remains in the trial and early commercialization stage. The defense business has real partnerships, but whether it can significantly change Nokia’s overall revenue and profit structure remains the key implicit assumption.

Discussion Summary

The comment section is fairly active overall, but it has an obvious WSB style, with support, FOMO, memes, and serious pushback mixed together. Supporters mainly agree that Nokia has shifted from a “5G/old phone” narrative to AI optical networking, IP Networks, 6G, and AI-RAN. They especially emphasize that after Q1 2026 there is quantifiable evidence: AI & Cloud orders, optical networking growth, raised guidance, and NVIDIA’s $1 billion investment. Some also mention that Nokia benefits from Western customers’ preference for non-Chinese suppliers, and view it similarly to BB as a legacy turnaround that needs to escape an outdated label. Several users say they already hold shares or LEAPS, and some even followed by buying $15 and $20 long-dated Calls. The bearish side focuses on two main issues: first, the post “came too late,” as NOK has already risen sharply over the past year and also substantially over the past six months, making the risk of chasing highs obvious; second, a highly upvoted rebuttal argues that the poster’s P/E methodology is flawed, saying the current P/E is closer to 81 rather than 26, and mocks the argument with the idea that “Domino’s also delivers pizza to the Pentagon and also uses AI, so it should also be re-rated,” criticizing the poster for overgeneralizing the AI/defense labels. Other users ask for a distinction between trailing and forward P/E and post valuation screenshots to question the persuasiveness of the thesis. OP’s replies focus on three points: first, he argues that the mindset of “it has already gone up, so I missed it” is unreasonable, comparing it to major winners such as NU, NVDA, and AAPL, which were also considered to have risen too much in their early stages; second, he admits that short-term pullbacks are normal, says he lost about CAD 83,000/about $50,000 in a single day but is not nervous, and is considering converting the $15 Calls into leveraged stock if the decline continues in order to reduce time pressure; third, in the comments he gives a clearer though still time-uncertain target range, saying he could see $25–30, while also mentioning that some more aggressive investors are hoping for $60. In the AI-RAN discussion, one user asks whether robotaxis would use AI-RAN for urban positioning. OP replies that robotaxis are a target use case for AI-RAN, emphasizing low latency and ISAC, but this claim is not sufficiently verified in the comments. Overall, the consensus is that Nokia does have a new AI/6G/defense catalyst narrative, and NVIDIA’s involvement improves credibility; the main disagreement is whether the market has already fully priced it in, whether the valuation multiple is reasonable, and whether the path from AI-RAN trials to meaningful revenue is sufficiently clear. Highly upvoted “brick phone” comments are more of a meme about Nokia’s old brand image and should not be treated as substantive investment arguments.

Fact Check
supported
Nokia has pivoted from a traditional hardware/telecom equipment vendor toward AI infrastructure and AI-RAN/6G.
Nokia’s Q1 2026 report disclosed that AI & Cloud customer orders reached EUR 1 billion and raised its Network Infrastructure growth outlook; NVIDIA also announced in October 2025 that it would cooperate with Nokia on AI-RAN/6G and invest $1 billion. Calling it a full transformation into an AI company is still a market interpretation, but the direction is supported by public materials.
questionable
Nokia’s current P/E is about 26, lower than Ciena and Arista, so it can be re-rated to a higher AI/optical networking valuation.
26x is closer to the forward P/E or a specific calculation methodology shown by some data sources; multiple valuation data sources show NOK’s trailing P/E above 70–80x, with forward P/E around 28–31x. The highly upvoted comment questioning that the “current P/E is not 26” has some basis. Directly applying Ciena’s or Arista’s multiples to Nokia as a whole also ignores differences in business structure.
supported
Nokia has Nokia Federal Solutions for the U.S. government and has defense/AI-RAN-related cooperation with Lockheed Martin, NVIDIA, and others.
Nokia’s official website confirms that Nokia Federal Solutions is its business serving the U.S. government; Nokia and Lockheed Martin recently announced a modular open-architecture 5G solution for U.S. and allied defense forces; NVIDIA’s investment and AI-RAN cooperation are also covered by official announcements. The Motorola UK defense development mentioned in the main post was not confirmed in this limited fact-check, so that part should be considered insufficiently verified.
supported
Nokia’s Q1 2026 AI-related equipment/AI & Cloud sales or orders were about EUR 1 billion and grew significantly.
Nokia’s official Q1 2026 report states that orders from AI & Cloud customers for the quarter were EUR 1 billion, while Optical Networks grew 20% and Network Infrastructure net sales grew 6%. It should be noted that this refers to orders rather than all recognized revenue, so the use of “sales” in the comments is not fully precise.
unclear
If Nokia is re-rated by the market to about 54x P/E, the share price could reach about $26.8, and AI-RAN may bring a new revenue stream similar to cloud monetization in the future.
The $26.8 price target is the poster’s simple calculation based on a doubling of the multiple, and it is mathematically consistent with the poster’s assumptions. However, there is insufficient proof that an Arista-like multiple should be applied to Nokia as a whole. AI-RAN’s long-term business model, revenue recognition timeline, and margins remain at an early stage. Public materials mostly describe cooperation, trials, and forward-looking plans, which are not yet enough to verify a “cloud-like monetization” revenue stream.

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